Monday, November 5, 2012

READERS MAIL: Is It Right for a Pastor to Place A Curse on His Church Workers?

Dear Ladun,

I need your advice and that of your readers too. I am a member of one of the biggest pentecostal churches in Nigeria. Ystdy, being the first sunday of the month, we usually have thanksgiving service, workers meeting and then the holy communion service to usher you into a new month.

During workers meeting ystdy, my Pastor made some pronouncements that left me Weak, Sick and gave me a sleepless night. What did he say? Please click to continue.



He said "As long as he is our pastor (he resumed last Sunday in Sept), any worker of his church that engages in Adultery and Fornication would lose his/her FIRST CHILD that is even if atall such a person gets married. The only thing that would make that Curse not stand is if Such a person comes to him to ask for Mercy.

Where I have an issue is that I don't have sex wif my boyfrnd but we kiss and touch each other n do every oda thing but no penetration. Can that be tagged as "Fornication". And infact we still did it last week. Now I'm scared because I love this boy so much and if I tell him we have to stop all what we do, he's gonna cheat on me. As it is, he's jus managing with the "no sex thing".

Fellow LLBers, where I need ur advice is

1) Should I go and meet my pastor and explain all dis things to him? (I am ashamed cos I am a daughter of a senior exco of the church and he knows my father very well).

2) Secondly if my boyfrnd of 3yrs and friend of 6yrs says he can't be my bf wif touching me, should I jus let him go? I wanna have twins as my first born and I wouldn't want dem to die.

3) Is it right for a Man of God to place those kind of curses from the Altar of God on his workers just because he wants to curb d sin of adultery and fornication.

I would be most grateful if u can post my mail. My mind hasn't been at peace since he made those declarations ystdy evening. God bless you for the great work you are doing. It is well with you IJN.

107 comments:

  1. Let him without sin cast the first stone! Fornication is wrong but there are lots of other sins that go on in church. Only God knows the ones that serve him on spirit and truth.

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    1. God bless you for this. I kinda feel lighter. A.F

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    2. No matter what kind of sin it is,I don't think a man of God should utter such a curse. That's also a sin on its on level. Pray against such a curse,nawa for people sef,a man of God at that.

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  2. WONU: na wa o wen he is nt God u just need to pray en reject every curse cos d pastor sef is nt witout sin he is also curson himself indirectly.

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    1. WONU- what's wrong with u how do u know what a the man is doing, or is he doing u? Rubbish

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  3. yeah and you a churchworker feel it is outsiders that will give you the best spiritual and relationship advice abi??well done....ladun you and your tall tales....

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    1. Idiot, I sent the mail to her. U don't need to abuse Ladun. I'm even surprised she posted it cos Linda didn't. God bless you Ladun. Let d comments come in. A.F

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    2. Idiot? And u supposed to b a born again xtain???? U r indeed a fool! U asking if its a sin to head/bj/kiss/touch? No, no b sin, na blessing! U n ur pastor together go face judgemnet! Okponu!

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  4. Well, God is the judge not man. What ur r doing as a christian is not right but if God forgives us every single time we sin and ask for forgiveness, why then sud a pastor lay a curse on people.Infact, that pastor sud review that speech cos there is no righteous man in the world and all sins being equal sud not lay emphasis on just fornication.

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    1. God bless you Sir/Ma. A.F

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    2. God bless you Sir/Ma. A.F

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  5. LMAO! You guys are sure living in bondage. If i were you, i will fuck my bf sef. Idiotic pastor, it is him that will not have kids. Why do you attend such a useless church. Is this what being a xtian is about? I s that what Jesus taught you? Did Jesus curse sinners?
    Your pastor is a fool, and you are even a bigger fool. Olodo!

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    1. Pls do not call the man of God a fool. I'm no fool either. I already wrote a letter to the G.O. He gave his reasons as being the only means to curb adultery n fornication amongst his workers.

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  6. This is definitely RCCG! i totally identified with this post while reading, although my Pastor hasn't gone this far. i will like to read responses.
    One thing i know is that, GO seriously warned against adultery (especially) some while ago, and said that, people who come up to confess will be treated with Grace 'cus of this Grace period, but serious trouble awaits those that will be caught.

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    1. Is this 'GO' God that gives mercy and has a 'grace period'. My brainwashed Nigerians.

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  7. No comment. But let him know that he is not God. May be he said it out of anger. He must hv heared some dirty story and was upset. Just pray and God is the only one dat forgives and gives mercy.

    Just still keep ur self dear. It's God u re working for, not him. Talk to ur God not ur pastor. Let's not turn pastors into gods.

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  8. I'd say the pastor is 100% wrong! Jeez WTF! WWJD? (What Would Jesus Do)? Whatever happened to praying for his congregation instead of laying curses on them like he's some sort of 'god' or perfect. He even went further to say the person should come to him to ask for mercy. Is he God??? He should go ahead with the curse, only if he's never sinned. I can't have such a pastor. Tufiakwa

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  9. My Darling Heavy petting and kissing without penetration as you say is part of fornication... The bible says there will be a remnant generation, Pray abt it and talk to your bf that u wld like to stop if u really know its wrong and not because your pastor layed a curse. If he's meant for you, he will stay...the bible says the wedding bed should be undefiled. Finally ask forgiveness from God not necessarily your pastor the Bible says in Acts that the days of ignorance he will forgive, so start ur relationship afresh and renew your vows with God.
    Its hard yeh, but God help you...Its pays to be sexually pure!Remain blessed!

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    1. God bless you Meede. U jus made my night. A.F

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    2. WONU: @Meede u made my nite too thanks

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    3. Well from my own point of view,d way nigerian pastors r going is gten out of hand,they mak us bliv we dnt kw how to talk to our God in prayer,y will a man of God place a curse on church worker?wht happen to d word repentence and 4gvness?I hv gten to a stage in my life,I dnt hv to tell my pastor all my worries,I pray on my own,i agre wit d word" blv;my dear sista dnt lv ur faith on ur pastor,he is nt ur God and also dnt lv ur boy friend cos ur pastor lay a curse,follow ur heart,nthing will happen to u and ur unborn twin,pastors dnt giv children it is God,no man hs right ova ur destiny

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  10. Your Pastor is not God. He needs not rain curses for any reason as you have stated. Christ did not curse even the woman caught in adultery, so what moral/ spiritual justification does your Pastor have to place curses before a fact. As a Priest you do not use these SCARE approach on your congregation. You win them over with love and teach them the way of righteousness whilst encouraging them in their weaknesses. The question is WWJD (what would Jesus do) in this scenario. With love Jeus will show you the way to go. I know what church this is already as i am sure many readers here do, where many of the Pastors see themselves in their arrogance as practically next to God if not God Himself. But I keep that fact to myself.

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  11. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with his finger as though he did not hear them, And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.

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  12. Sister Sister!!! Ill be FRANK with u cos its obvious your IQ is 0.005, so you need this advice. Who do you think you are fooling and who are your trying to PLEASE? Your "righteous" Pastor (who from the look of things commits no Sin)or GOD who we all generally believe is the "MAIN MAN" whom you are supposed to be answerable to. Cos you seem to be soo scared now that your Pastor is using the Psychological tactics he 'picked up' during his last trip (to wherever) than even GOD who is supposed to see 'everything' u do (including the BJs/Cunnilinguses u and ur BF dey give una sef) CONCLUSION: Sister Sister: Pleasee be TRUE to yourself and just opt out of being a church worker cos its obvious you are doing that to please MEN (Ur pastor & ur Dad), and face what makes you happy (being with your BF) cos dats the ONLY way you can have Peace of mind.
    P.S- And i Hope this will make you feel better: YOUR PASTOR'S WORDS/CURSES can do you Nothing because He's not God. All the Best.
    Signed: Da Counselor

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    1. Hmmmmm. My IQ is not low in Jesus name. A.F

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    2. Ur IQ is even below 0.0001. U disgust me!

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    3. Yay!!! Hehehen
      I laff in latin
      Smile.

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  13. An example of people who worship their pastors more than God,can't sand ths sht.

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  14. Wow! This is quite strong, why would a man of God say such? And who is he for u to go and ask mercy ? I keep telling people pls study to show yourself approve. Bible says you shall know the truth and the truth shall set u free. What u doing is wrong but ask God for mercy and strength to abstain from such act, and in no time you would find the strength to abstain and if the guy his yours he will do anything to make u happy. You need to obey God and not man. If he will not understand you pls end the relationship, why disobey God becos of your guy, if he ends up not marrying u after all ur effort. Where do u stand? It does not matter how long u been with him dear. Be confident in your self am sure u are a beautiful lady, stand for who u are. Don't go and meet your pastor for anything. They are not God to answer our prayer ,they are only there to strength us when we weak,only God has the final say.
    You shall be like tree planted by the river side who shall bear fruit in season. Your children will not die they will be for signs and wonders.
    As the bird by wandering as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come to pass in your life proverbs 26:2
    Pastor's don't pull another men down because of your selfish interest.
    If your pastor is an RCCG pastor send a letter to Daddy GO.
    Do u know what ur pastor does behind close doors ? No one is righteous my dear, as we are not perfect but by grace and mercy we walking towards perfection
    Kind regards
    Lorlah

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    1. God bless you Lola.I already wrote a letter to the higher authorities. U are blessed in Jesus name. A.F

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    2. Bia AF, is it d same mouth u used to call someone idiot dat u using to say u r blessed IJN? U such an hypocrite aswear! Haba.....

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    3. Geroff here. Bloody Nigerians and their hypocrisy.so because she's a church worker, that makes her less human huh? If u behave like an idiot she shouldn't call it to ur attention dat u are one? I know ur type. A real idiot, dats wot u are. Silly

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  15. Hmmmnnnn. One day, one day, all you Naija follow follow christains will open your eyes and see majority of your fake pastors for the fraud they are

    Is cursing people off fornication the calling of this pastor? If Jesus didn't curse sinners, wetin be him own? Why is he a pastor? He's not really to blame. I bet you guys call him Daddy or Papa, he's right to treat you as slaves when you all worship your pastors

    Report him to the overall daddy. I hope he doesn't take your pastor's side.

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  16. Another point to make here is the old 'Practice what you preach' saying. Don't live hypocritically as a church worker & as an adulterer. If u think u can't abstain, better just be a member. Its not by force to be a worker

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  17. Sister abeg them tie your destiny to the church? What kind of pastor places a curse on his flock abeg? Rubbish, you better go to a new church.

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    1. Lmao! As in! Well, quit d workers dept ni! Abi, d curse is reserved 4 workers only! D@ way, u'll b xempted! Lol. What I not hear in dis country!

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  18. ha ha ha!!!smtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!abeg as dem say tolu nd ijogun no furk 4 14years,abeg make una help me ask dem if dem no do all dis tin wey dis person say she dey do with her bobo?????????rubish rubish rubish!!!

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    1. I can see this Tolu's wedding is seriously making you bitter. Frustrated old ashi like u!! Why can't you go and get your own man and stop taking an overdose of beef. Idiot!!!

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  19. dear my advice for you is to live right as a child of GOD that you are,i dont rili see any need for you to go and confess to him if your heart doesnt accept confessing,and for the pastor lets leave his judgment to GOD n if your boyfriend makes a move on leaving u then its a true reflection on the fact that he doesnt love you(n if you think he will cheat or leave u wen u refuse him the goods then u better do a double check if he isnt already doing one of the above) ....like seriusly...playing safe is the best option if u cant rili wait till marriage..... follow @iAmhairs for inspirational tweets

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  20. Hello Dear, I knw a lot of peeps ve bin commenting but I jst want u 2 knw dat wht ur doing wit ur BF is actually wrong, the bible says "its nt good 4 a man to touch a woman" also ur pastor inasmuchas he's trying 2 be strict has no right 2 lay curses on u guys bcos fonication isn't d only sin. Also u ve 2 choose btw pleasing God n ur BF. May God giv u d grace 2 take a firm decision.

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    1. Amen. Thanks. A.F

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    2. Abeg no vex,which part of the bible says "it is not good for a man to touch a woman" ? I never see dat one b4. Pls don't misquote !!!

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  21. As a church worker you know what you are doing is not right asking whether petting is fornication deep down you know its wrong! The Bible says do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers your boyfriend is obviously one so you had better get out of that relationship now that there is grace! Jesus is coming soon your pastor is not even the person to fear!

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  22. My sis,I happen 2 b in d same shoes wit u,jst d@ my pastor didn't lay a curse.buh seriously,is kissing a sin?d bible says,greet one anoda wt a holy kiss,den d touching,is it equal 2 fornicating?

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    1. Obatan. U people wouldn't kee me with laff o. Afi holy kiss na. Okay on a serious note, if you're on the verge of making out with ur bf/gf and that verse pops into your head to justify your act, guess whose job that is? The Devil's. Do not be deceived, the devil knows the bible better than most christians and uses it to justify their sins.
      Don't get me wrong though, i'm not judging u, even our most righteous works are like filthy rags in the eyes of the Creator but God's grace is sufficient.

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  23. Plssss all these pple laying emphasis on her being a church worker r making it sound like it is ok to sin so long as u r not a church worker.abeg sis dnt stop being a church worker it pays to work for God no matter wat. If u discuss with ur boyfriend abt stopping and he reufses, move on. It wud be really difficult to stay so clean away from sexual immorality and lust but God's grace is sufficient and at the appointed time He will give u the best.U r not alone so many christians struggle with this. God's grace

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  24. Ur pastor is foolish........I hate dat guy. Who does he think he is that you have to seek mercy from him. u d writer sef, u r too dull. I don't think u are educated at all. For a Polytechnic graduate to be brainwashing you like dat, Ido not think u have any mental capability at all. please do not let me insult you,because o n rumi ni u.(u r irritating me)

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    1. U didn't need to have commented in the first place if no word of sense was goin to come out of your mouth. And for ur bloody info, I'm educated. I'm sure u have never passed thru the walls of a uni how much sit down @a good paying job. After all, Meede, Lorlah and a few other people gave comments that gave me peace. Pls mind ur words next time. Thank. A.F

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    2. Ahn!ahn! A.F why were u replyin pple at d first place nw u getin angry buh u ask for advice. God help u

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  25. Most Nigerian Pastors eat the best pussy, trust me I know. especially the married ones. So sweetie. God is the only one that can judge you, even Jesus didnt curse Mary Magdalene so that punnie pastor has no power above yours. Lying, envy, stealing, thinking evil, Fornication is wrong and so is Adultery, a sin most married Nigerian men indulge in.

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  26. My 2cents! Fornication is wrong and whot u doing with ur bf is wrong,If ur bf is child of God? He knows whot d bibile says, after 6yrs of friendship he shld be ready for marriage,as for this man of God,I am speechless, this curse is too grave, pple will always sin n that's y we have abundance of grace, so for him to be cursing an innocent child is wrong, but u know God has neva given us the authority to condem anything done the authority over us, so pls ehn be very careful.

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  27. Ur bf na good boy oooo , kissing and that's it? Omo sex na the main koko

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    1. One of the many reasons I don't want to him to go. We sat down n had this conversation abt the no sex thing and it took a while but he finally came to terms with it and d grace of God has been sufficient 4us since den. Now I'm comin wif another story of him not touchin me atall?. I'm really praying for God's will to be done.

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  28. i am a member of rccg as well and while i totally and unequivocally respect pastor adeboye and his pronouncements and calling,his or any man of GOD's pronouncement will not run my life or dictate for me.

    i used to be like the poster until i became matured spiritually and forged a path for myself in my christian life..a man of GOD will run his ministry in line with his life view,personality and you can't discount the african tradition/mentality as well..
    the average african man of GOD will frighten you into serving GOD so most christians are serving GOD not because of the love of GOD but in order for them not to go to hell

    pastor adeboye or any man of GOD are not the dispenser of grace only the lord dispenses grace and he has said his grace is all abounding and sufficient for all of us..

    second my lord does not rate any pastor above me because he said we are joint heirs in his kingdom and he is not afraid to call me his brother unless any pastor is claiming to be above jesus christ then we are both equal in his eyes.
    if christians are supposed to be sinless and blame less then what are we doing in church every week,or why do we call on GOD in prayers and supplications?

    the bible say that we perish for lack of knowledge...go and read your bible yourself and the lot will provide enlightenment for you don't let any pastor confuse or frighten you into a state of spiritual slavery

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    1. God bless you Maam. A.F

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    2. Na wa o. Is this really Luca or someone hacked into his account? Surprise Surprise.

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    3. And why re u foolishing replying everybody and insulting dem biko? I tot u re a church worker and a xtian....no wonder u re even confused. Ode oshi....u re jst a waste

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    4. Oh phuleeze!!! This "church worker" is really tryna set someone up joor. I'm not buying this. Which regular blog reader calls Luca "maam"? We all know Luca is a shim....*okay... Lemme be nice* we all Know Luca is a brilliant young MAN.
      So you fake ass gutter trash forming worker here, please return that borrowed life. You aint gat one.

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  29. Why do I get the feeling the writer is leaving hints to set a church worker up? Cos if I was a member of this church, I'd def put two and two 2geda and pick out a possible writer with all the clues provided. God who sees in secret will reward in the open.

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    1. Well, I'm not trying to set up any church worker. I am also a worker in dat particular Zone. Besides, how many workers do u know abt their lives n BFs n GFs outside church. If u don't have anythin impt to say pls hold ur peace. God bless u. A.F

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  30. Not meaning to be offensive and God forgive me if this is wrong but for a pastor who asks the congregation to come and confess their sins to him! What does he want? He mainly want to sample the ripe ones. He will probably tell you that for all your sins to be forgiven, he needs to sample you first.

    My dear, your faith is your mind. Why are you going to the church? to please man or to serve God. Ask the man if he never in his life committed adultery or fornicated.

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  31. A pastor can place a curse buh not in dis case my dear.it is very very wrong.am also a worker in my church nd a youth not yet married,we all fall into temptations buh y shld we be caused.
    If u read ur bible very well,even tinking abt fornication ye av already done it so wah do we say to dat??? Ur pastor shld be very careful or else he will fall.

    My advise to you is to stand firm in d lord,u owe no pastor anytin.forget abt d curse nd move on.let's see where it ends.

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  32. Is your Pastor God?
    I am not saying fornication is ok...which btw includes " every other thing " as mentioned by the writer, but ONLY God can grant forgiveness of sins.
    I would STOP going to that Church, only because the pastor is equating himself to God.....

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  33. Fornication nd adultery is bad.from d post I fink I v an idea of d church bt nt d parish.ma church is like dt as wel.ma pastor is like dt as wel bt he won't lay such a curse on ple.sincerely,fornication b4 marriage is wrng,its nt esy bt wit d hlp of christ,1 cn ovacum it.pastors kick against it, d bible wrote against it nd even d rules/commandments of God r against it.none of u has any right 2 say bad things abt a pastor b it fake or real.let God b d judge.bible even says it dt wen,a man of God turns against sm1 even d heavens r in support.God has given pastors authority over us,if dey suspend 1 frm church or the pastor no longa bles a particular person.its a sign deal frm above.let's beware of tinz dt we do nd tinz we say.am a worker as wel also struggling 2 do d ryt tinz.guyz,dnt make al of dt ur priority in a relationship.if u love ur woman,u wil stand by ha nd say no 2 FORNICATION.God bles us

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  34. Even if u are not a church worker, heavy petting aint good. Because it gets U aroused and can lead to temptation. Just like playing with fire and not wanting to get burnt.

    Your Pastor - I leave that to your church. Could his tactics of making people repent.

    Between, is the trend now personal/face-to-face confession. Going back to catholic era. #hmmmm #Good

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  35. You asked someone not to call you and your Pastor fools, I repeat that the two of you are fools. What else are you if not a compound fool? Your pastor dropped that kind of curse on yopu and your fellow foolish workers and none of you raised an objection. You have been so brainwashed and become so docile that none of you told the pastor, "Pastor, I take an exception to that" or even your usual "I reject it in Jesus' name"

    I bet if it was your boss or even your father that cursed you that way, you would have objected vehemently. But because the pastor is your god, you swallowed it and went into panic mode. Goodluck to you with your Firstborn. All of you in your church deserve one another.

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    1. U weren't there now. Do u know what time d meeting finished. Nobody agreed wif him. People kept on raising hands to ask questions. And I already gave u d reasons he gave for that curse.Someone even went as far as telling him to get ready n start organizing burial ceremonies. I am not a fool IJN. It is not by force to comment o. A.F

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    2. Shut the fuck up AF! Must u reply every comment? Hian!

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  36. eh,eh,eh,luca has said it all!!so nice nd touching.

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  37. @sister janet
    a pastor cannot and should not place a curse don't mix the old testament with the new

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  38. @simply me
    that line you are quoting is the reason why things are as bad as they are right now..apostle paul said that if an elder in the church does something wrong the church members has a right to question or accuse the leader provided they can provide i think 2/3 witnesses pls read your bible and stop using the "do my prophets no harm"line that mog's use to avoid responsibility for their actions..you will find this in corinthians don't remember the chapter or verse..
    secondly if the lord says you are joint heirs in his kingdom,his brother and says you are a little above even angels doesn't that tell you that you are equal in the eyes of the lord to that pastor?

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  39. This story is completely cooked up. Responding to it makes one look stupid.

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    1. Ask any worker of Bethel Zone, LP9 who was present at the 2pm worker's meeting on sunday if such words dint come out of Pastor B.O's mouth. Completely cooked up indeed.plus u don't need to respond sef. Thank God 4d great people dat gave good advice. God bless u all.

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    2. Jus had to come back to drop another comment. Completely cooked up indeed. I have my reasons why I told Ladun to post d mail as anonymous. She has my email address and my full names if u are so jobless u can verify with her. Its not by force to comment on blogs. God bless U.

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  40. @Moli, GO is way out of order if what you said is true. GO is not the custodian of mercy nor does his blood provide grace. As bad as adultery and fornication are, mercy, forgiveness and the grace to rise above is found in Christ and not in GO or any pompous pastor. Will the pastor come to confess his own sins to me? All this sanctimonious attitude grate my tits. They just sit in their plush offices waiting for folks to come and confess. Better go and be a catholic priest.

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  41. I would indeed like to thank Ladun Liadi and all fellow LLBers. Thanks for your advice and all. Up until ystdy, I dint consider kissing n smoochin as fornication. I assumed it was the real sex thing that is fornication. Secondly, what my pastor meant was that such a person should come to his office n he would ask 4mercy on behalf of that person. In his words he said "If U have ever indulged in it betwn wen I resumed as your Zonal Pastor and 2day, pls come see me and let's us find a way out" He dint mean come n ask for Mercy from me. I have asked 4mercy from God myself. Thanks y'all for the advice. Good things will never depart 4rm u. A.F

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    1. AF is such an Affirmative Fool..... Ur comments dey make me purge. Kaiiii, such hypocrisy n nonsense!!!

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  42. A.F, you are a rotten liar and a confused person. You did not read the part where the bible condemned sexual sins and immorality? It is girls like you that engage in anal sex and still call themselves virgins. Get out of here, fast.

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    1. Tell me your bf or gf has never touched u b4. I said I dint know but now I know. Why r u now abusing me.May God have mercy on U o.

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    2. Good reply! The babe na fool na..... Hypocrite!!!! Abusing pple n also say God bless u. Imagine nonsense. Ashawo oshi

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  43. Manipulation and control can never be a means of curbing adultery and fornication. love for God and intercourse with his word is still the only sure way. At this rate, they will curb fornication but masturbation will be on the loose in this church.

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  44. By the way, the same bible applies to a worker and any church going Christian. All other man made laws that form the doctrine of the church apart, the same bible applies. worker or member, fornication is wrong.

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  45. this lucabracee guy dey make sense die. i posted my comment before seeing his.
    this is not the first time i am loving his comment. When next i enter UK, you and i suppose meet up. you be my kind of guy. #nohomo.

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  46. shut up, which authority has God given pastors over us, are u not a child of God yourself,haven't u read about all this so called fake pastors that rape and seep with choir members, nobody has the right to lay curse on another, after all jesus said he came for he the sinners not for the righteous, why did he not condemn the woman that commited adultery, in stead he said to her, neither have i condemned u, go and sin no more, and from that day she did not go back to her sin, jesus never laid curse on an sinner, that your pastor is a CUNT.

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  47. @anon 9:45,u cannot snatch luca away 4rm me oooooooooo!!!hes alredy taken joooooooorrrrrrrr!!

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  48. @ poster
    fornication and adultery are wrong whichever way we are to look at it.
    something should differentiate you, child of God from the rest, you are the remnant in this generation that should take a stand and I am happy there are still young girls like you around that could actually have sleepless nights over this issue.

    fornication seems more difficult to avoid especially when you are young with sexual exorbitance.

    but like someone mentioned are you remorseful because of what the pastor said or for God?

    If your man cannot be CELIBATE then let him go he's obviously not on the same page with you, do not be unequally yoked.....BUT you should do the right thing regardless of the situation.

    you can stop petting by the grace of the Holy spirit just ask him to help you.

    all the best

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  49. Most of the pastors out here are destined for hell fire .... The deepest and hottest parts of the pits of hell has been reserved for them!

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  50. The guilty are always afraid. You are worried about what your postor said becuase you ways are not right. I won't know what led the pastor to make such pronoucement but it may be a strategy to checkmate the hypocritical workers who engage in funication and adultery to allieniate hony spirit from the church. Unlike any other sin, furnication/adultery negatively impact on the very foundation(the temple of the holy spirit) of the church and any serious man of God cannot condone it.
    So my advice is the you should desist from your unholy ramance with you boyfriend. It is not right, not even with a church worker. If you are not ready to serve God in holiness, it is better you step outside.
    It is easy to see how wrong the pastor is in raining curses on would be adulterous and forciating workers without realising where you have gone. ''FLEE FROM FORNICATION--------'' was the way bible puts it to underscore how dangerous it is, not even for somoene who ministers before the God of Heaven.

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  51. "If U have ever indulged in it betwn wen I resumed as your Zonal Pastor and 2day, pls come see me and let's us find a way out"


    SMH..........what other way out besides asking God for forgiveness and receiving his grace to live above the sin? This pastor way no clear at all. Simple truths that God has uncovered, they want to make hidden.

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  52. Abeg o,,,,, leave that church,,, Jesus Christ never did that if he is a pastor he should emulate JEsus steps,,, he should be a shepherd n guide you accordingly Abeg ,,,,,WHERE IS NONYA MAKE SHE COME FINISH THE MAN N GIVE U ADVISE

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  53. Silly child A.F. You and ur pastors deserve urselves. Nigerian pastors. No wonder the likes of oyedepo can physically assault an unarmed poor child and get away wit it. Idiots. Don't u have any sense at all A.F????
    While u and ur bobo engage in all types of sexual things,it's important u know that oral cancer is real.Silly child.

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  54. my dear, even though we believe dat d pastor has no right to release curse on his members, d truth must be spoken, at least frm ur comment u as a person is ashamed of what u are doing, dat is why, u can't stand d idea of going to ask for mercy & not to drag ur family name to mud, now u judge it, u are ashamed of tanishing ur family image but not dat of GOD. Hence, shld we continue in SIN that GRACE may abound? & d answer was GOD forbid. so do not be decived, for GOD is not mocked, do not yield unto those ecouraging to sin, blc d foundation of d LORD IS SURE, having dis SEAL, For GOD knows those who are HIS, hence let those that nameth d name of d LORD DEPART FRM INIQUIY, so d choice is urs.

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  55. All this noise over a so caled 'curse'. Na wa for Nigerians ooo. Curse is just talk from a dirty mouth. Anybody can open mouth and say I curse u na. If curses were real, the world would have been very empty today.

    You guys need to stop believing in useless curses and pastors. Pastors are humans like you all. There is nothing special about them. They create that fear in your minds to keep you guys doling out cash to them to build family businesses and buy private jets. A word is enough for the wise. Pray directly to your God people. Finito.

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  56. So in ur pastor's mind he is God. Wat I av continually failed to understand is y peepz can't just confront dis so called men of God wen they are out of order. If any yeye pastor tries dat shit he pulled n am in church I will insult d f out of him.
    N.B I will do so evn in church, coz if he tok lyk a fool then d building is not fit 2 b called a aus of God.

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  57. For all those who gave me good advice, you are all blessed. For those who chose to abuse me, all is well with you. I am not a hypocrite. I tot LLB was like a family thingy were we cud share advice n help each oda. Instead, people started to abuse me. I refuse to comment again. For all those who touched my life wif their comments, Ur expectations shall never be cut off and for those who abused me n my pastor, all is well IJN. A.F

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    1. That is wat u r! U beta stop calling Jesus befor thunder strike u from above. Onye ara!

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  58. This foolish Audacious Fuck first you give a clue that the church is RCCG, den u say Father is a top exco in the church.... Last I checked, it wasn't all pastors in RCCG who went on a cursing spree. So any member of that parish with even half a brain, who heard the Pastor curse, will automatically figure out the chic who's father is a church exco and has been dating a friend of six years, for three years now. And I know that's what you want them to do. But in this case, the person they'll figure out, is NOT the one who sent this pile of bullocks. You're a demon!!!

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  59. Then to make matters worse, u put a lead to the name A.F.... Aje oshi... U just want to set an innocent person up. No right finking person will leave this much clues to their own story.

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  60. JESUS said HE did not come to condemn sinners but rather they should repent and come to the FATHER.

    So what gives a pastor, a mere flesh like everybody the audacity to learn curse upon church workers? IS HE GOD?

    I don't blame him, but the people that put pastors on a pedestal and fuss around them!

    What happened to BACK TO SENDER PRAYER?......He has children also?

    This can only happen in RCCG! yes, iw as a member before i relocated! A pastor impregnanted his finacee who is a doctor, they rushed teh wedding, they were transferred to another church as a pastor, but when a choir master did the same, he was demoted, frustrated out of the church! I attended ...HOPE PARISH branch!

    You have yourself to blame also! I believe you are one of the gals that go about i-am-a-virgin-attitude...deceiving people..FORNICATION IS FORNICATION and it is not the only sin in the bible! SIN IS SIN..none greater, none lesser!

    Instead of you crying, ask GOD for forgiveness and send an ANONYMOUS letter to him that same fate will befall his own children in future and see if he won't take back his curse...or you attend another church..abi dem tie your life to the church?
    mschewwwwwwwwwwwwww!

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  61. @PROF X
    LOOL watch out for my ministry flyer!

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  62. @anon 09;47
    LOOOL so u v even condemned me that i can't make a positive comment?
    like 2face tweeted lord forgive them for they know not what their commenting ;-)

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  63. When I need a good laugh I just read blog. Jeez I can sense frustration, angry literacy in some comments. #enjoying my AM since I can't go to camp#

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  64. He had NO RIGHT to lay a curse. Because we all live in sins!

    Fornication/adultery is not only the act of physical intercourse,but the thoughts also. And it is not the only sin in the bible. There are many things we do as human we think it is not a sin, but in the presence of GOD,it is.

    Read this to understand..http://thenitty-grittytalesofahousewife.blogspot.com/2012/11/he-that-has-ear-llet-him-hear.html

    Thank you.

    p.s just noticed a comment by a simple me...was astonished at first who was using my blog-name, until i saw it was with a single 'e'...let out a sigh... ahahhahahahahaha...

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  65. from my little understanding, i don't think any pastor has the right to pronounce such curses simply becos he wants to curb fornication/adultery among church workers. They are meant to serve God freely and gladly not becos of fear from a laid down curse. Is he trying to take the place of God by saying it can only be reversed if they ask him for mercy? If u ask me, i wud say he just wants to know about ur sexual lives.

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  66. LOL. funny replies and all. You see why u must know God for urself? and also know d bible for urself so no one leads u astray. Its true that fornication is a sin.. in ur relationship, u shud have boundaries..sexual boundaries. The same way ur pastor can approach God is d same way u can also approach God..cos ure born again and ure also his child.. You do sumtn wrong, u dnt nid to confess to anybdy except God..he's ur father too and he hears...From all i read, ure still a baby christian. You nid to grow up spiritually and evry other thing wud fall into place.

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